Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 vs A16 Bionic

We compared the 8-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (Adreno 740) with the older 6-core Apple A16 Bionic (Apple GPU) SoC. Here you will find the pros and cons of each chip, technical specs, and comprehensive tests in benchmarks, like AnTuTu and Geekbench.

Review

General comparison of performance, power consumption, and other indicators
CPU Performance
Single and multi-core processor tests
Gaming Performance
GPU performance in games and OpenCL/Vulcan
Battery life
Efficiency of battery consumption
NanoReview Score
Overall chip score

Key Differences

Main differences and advantages of each chip
Pros of Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2
  • Has 2 more cores
  • Shows better (up to 29%) AnTuTu 9 score – 1227K vs 954K
Pros of Apple A16 Bionic
  • 8% higher CPU clock speed (3460 vs 3200 MHz)
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Benchmarks

Performance tests in popular benchmarks

AnTuTu 9

The AnTuTu Benchmark measures CPU, GPU, RAM, and I/O performance in different scenarios
1227590
954246
CPU 264139 242019
GPU 548684 407261
Memory 227638 167432
UX 193923 145864
Total score 1227590 954246
AnTuTu results from iOS and Android are not directly comparable! They won't affect NanoReview scores.

GeekBench 5

The GeekBench test shows raw single-threaded and multithreaded CPU performance
Single-Core Score
Multi-Core Score
Image compression 251.3 Mpixels/s 243.5 Mpixels/s
Face detection 46.2 images/s 46.4 images/s
Speech recognition 122.9 words/s 141.8 words/s
Machine learning 114.1 images/s 117.1 images/s
Camera shooting 51.7 images/s 54.3 images/s
HTML 5 5.81 Mnodes/s 5.9 Mnodes/s
SQLite 1510 Krows/s 1430 Krows/s

3DMark

A cross-platform benchmark that assesses graphics performance in Vulkan (Metal)
3DMark Wild Life Performance
13243
9816
Stability 86% 82%
Graphics test 79 FPS 58 FPS
Score 13243 9816

Specifications

Full list of technical specifications of Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 and A16 Bionic

CPU

Architecture 1x 3.2 GHz – Cortex-X3
2x 2.8 GHz – Cortex-A715
2x 2.8 GHz – Cortex-A710
3x 2 GHz – Cortex-A510
2x 3.46 GHz – Everest
4x 2.02 GHz – Sawtooth
Cores 8 6
Frequency 3200 MHz 3460 MHz
Instruction set ARMv9-A ARMv9-A
L1 cache - 256 KB
L2 cache 1 MB 32 MB
L3 cache 8 MB -
Process 4 nanometers 4 nanometers
Transistor count - 16 billion

Graphics

GPU name Adreno 740 Apple GPU
Architecture Adreno 700 -
Execution units - 6
Vulkan version 1.3 -
OpenCL version 2.0 -
DirectX version 12 -

Memory

Memory type LPDDR5X LPDDR5
Memory frequency 8400 MHz 6400 MHz
Bus 4x 16 Bit 4x 16 Bit
Max bandwidth - 51.2 Gbit/s
Max size 24 GB 8 GB

Multimedia (ISP)

Neural processor (NPU) Yes Neural Engine
Storage type UFS 3.1, UFS 4.0 NVMe
Max display resolution 3840 x 2160 2796 x 1290
Max camera resolution 1x 200MP -
Video capture 8K at 30FPS, 4K at 120FPS 4K at 60FPS
Video playback 8K at 60FPS, 4K at 120FPS 4K at 60FPS
Video codecs H.264, H.265, AV1, VP8, VP9 H.264, H.265, VP8, VP9, Motion JPEG
Audio codecs AAC, AIFF, CAF, MP3, MP4, WAV AAC, AIFF, CAF, MP3, MP4, WAV, AC-3, E-AC-3, AAX, AAX+

Connectivity

Modem Snapdragon X70 -
4G support LTE Cat. 24 LTE Cat. 24
5G support Yes Yes
Download speed Up to 2500 Mbps -
Upload speed Up to 316 Mbps -
Wi-Fi 7 6
Bluetooth 5.3 5.3
Navigation GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, Galileo, QZSS, NAVIC GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, Galileo, QZSS

Info

Announced November 2022 September 2022
Class Flagship Flagship
Model number SM8550-AB -
Official page Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 official site -

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Comments

Please give your opinion on the comparison of A16 Bionic and Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, or ask any questions
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Billy 23 January 2023 02:13
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is very stable and has very good power efficiency. With a multi-core that was nearly A15, and a GPU score that crushed A16 with nearly 100% of stability. I believe that the GPU of 8 Gen 3 will surpass M1.
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Josh 28 January 2023 00:14
The M1 chip is in a league of its own maybe in mobile devices but gives it cooling and no it won’t touch an m1.
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Usman 20 January 2023 13:22
No doubt, snapdragon with 8 gen 2 is now getting better and going head to head with A15 but not A16. Here is why... 1. Apple has nVMe which is way faster than ufs 3.0 or 4.0. 2. Ram runs faster in A16 than 8 gen 2. 6400 vs 4200. 3. And don't forget the Apple optimization, which is very smooth and reliable for a long time. Ex. Even iPhone 8 Plus is smooth in 2023 for normal usage.
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AAA 22 January 2023 16:25
Finally with amd fused with the snap dragon. It’s powerful on gaming. It’s time to move away from Apple and back to android.
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Bullshit 23 January 2023 05:53
A16 only cater to iPhone 14 while SD caters to all android phone of course Apple will be better in optimization. It will be a huge slap to Apple if they can't even do that. A16 has 2 prime cores while SD only has 1 prime core. All in all the A16 advantage is just hardware.
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ItzWow 10 January 2023 21:05
Yoooo! 79 fps on sd 8 gen 2!!! Apple has a long way to catch up s droid flagship chipsets in gaming🎮🥱
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Qwerty 17 January 2023 11:45
But Apple dominates in battery life and efficiency... you know...the most important thing about a smartphone. Mobile Gaming is such a niche use for a phone, people use phones as normal phones. If you want to spend $1000+ just on mobile games, just get a PC or console.
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Hmm 20 January 2023 01:10
Qwerty, The mobile gaming market is bigger than pc and consoles combined.
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Ehsan 23 January 2023 20:28
Qwerty, @Qwerty Ohhh, so you're saying battery life is the most important thing in a smartphone and what do you think performance is? Do you think it's useless, like your comment? SD has come a long way with 8 gen 2. While the efficiency may not seem on the part with a16, in my opinion, it's better. Cause a16 is solely built for 2 devices and those specific phone's operating systems. While the 8 gen 2 is built for hundreds of androids which have different shapes, sizes, and most importantly UI. Considering the chip runs on a 3rd party OS, I'd say it's more than better than iOS. And what efficiency or performance do you brag about if you can't even use it properly? You can't do anything that's outside the boundaries of the iOS/App Store. While with Android you can do stuff that isn't even a part of your environment with things like emulators and whatnot! And 8 gen 2's thermal management and overall efficiency are significantly good! So, phone's like Vivo x90 pro plus run just shy of 7-8% of than iPhone 14 pro max's battery life. And these few mins I'm more than happy and willing to trade for the vast freedom and flexibility you get with android! And besides, that 7-8% more battery life isn't gonna put you that much ahead of the day. As a result, you're getting more than enough battery life you need throughout the day without compromising all the amazing things you can do with an Android!
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Unkown 08 January 2023 16:57
All these numbers are correct. But when we tested A16 bionic with the iPhone 14 pro max genshin impact (3.2 version) and it got 60 FPS. average easily. The A15 bionic with iPhone 13 pro max got 57 FPS. Average. And snapdragon 8 gen 2 with Vivo x90 pro plus it got 58 FPS. Qualcomm has improved and snapdragon 8 gen 2 can defeat A15 but A16, never.
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Harry 10 January 2023 14:16
Stop with the cap. A16 bionic can't reach 60 fps average. The power consumption of a16 bionic is worse than a15 bionic. And thermals are way worse. Optimized 8 gen 2 easily defeats both 16 and a15 bionic; both in efficiency and performance Source: 1. https://twitter.com/Golden_Reviewer/status/1612100301368197120?t=wGxyew_XjuwDNluQ5XmBKQ&s=19 2. https://twitter.com/Golden_Reviewer/status/1610664181816254467?t=LUxRYGLf3S9bXGZhbAgidg&s=19
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Unkown 17 January 2023 11:55
Harry, If you take a look at the golden reviewer chart the Xiaomi 13 pro got 59 fps with an ambient temp of 25c According to this source: https://www.reddit.com/r/iosgaming/comments/xqoztq/easy_60_fps_performance_iphone_14_pro_max_genshin/ You can see that the iPhone got 60 fps in the ambient temp of 31 The iPhone got better fps in hotter temperatures I am not an apple fanboy and I have Xiaomi But It looks like you are an android fanboy Nothing can match A16
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Gabriel 17 January 2023 16:46
Genshin Impact is literally optimized for iPhones. Even in 3D Mark Wild Life 8 Gen 2 got 80 FPS and A16 got 60 FPS and 8 Gen 2 was also more stable.
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Unkown 18 January 2023 11:14
Gabriel, I don't care about benchmarks. I care about real-world performance. Show me a game that the snapdragon 8 gen 2 is better than A16. And then I will accept that A16 is weaker.
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Unkown 19 January 2023 18:45
Forgot to add something Remember that ipadOS and IOS have the support of 120fps on genshin impact And if we see iphone 13 pro max golden reviewer with 120fps it will get 79fps which will crushhhhhhh snapdragon 8 gen And currently, we have no Android phone with 120fps support
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Donkey man 05 January 2023 14:38
Jesus calms tf down they are just mobile chips, no need to go into the specifics about one being 2% faster than the other or that one is more efficient than the other.
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ItzMe 23 December 2022 17:42
The GPU's power is clear when it comes to video capture. Sd 8 gen 2's 8K 30fps capture here clearly destroys apple's paleolithic 4K 60 fps capture. If we go back, we can see that even sd 625 (6-year-old midrange android chip) can record 4K 30fps !! Want more proof that a16's GPU lack behind the sd 8 gen 2? Check Wild life Mark results. Sd here gives 28,93% more fps, meaning better gaming performance thanks to the superb snapdragon's GPU. Apple's CPU performs better according to results, thanks to better software architecture (allocates less ram to the same apps maintaining the same performance). Conclusion? Both chips are beasts, they won't lag or ever throttle in every single task. If you're a gamer, go for Sd 8 gen 2. If you are a casual user or heavy task-fan then go for a16.
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Qwerty 28 December 2022 00:21
If you’re a gamer, go for a $1000+ PC instead of spending that specifically for mobile gaming. 20-30% gpu performance on a phone is no reason to go out and buy a phone.
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Entworks IT 01 January 2023 18:12
Qwerty, If you're an avid videographer or photographer or enjoy projecting presentations, videos, etc with your phone stay away from the A16. As already mentioned, the A16 is only decent due to the software architecture. If the same level of efficiency was allocated for the Snapdragon, the A16 wouldn't even be on the same graphs as the SD8g2.
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ItzMe 01 January 2023 18:56
Qwerty, Bro, we're talking about gaming on a phone. Gaming is surely better on pc, but doesn't anyone have 1000+ to spend? Instead, purchasing a 500-600$ gaming phone is more feasible. Also, the PC needs external compartments (monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc). So don't bring Computers into the comparison, costs get too far.
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Dinervc 04 January 2023 02:03
I sense an Android User. 1. The A16 is easily capable of 8k30fps. I‘d bet all my money it’s even able to easily record at 8k60fps as well. Why do I say this? Because it has little to nothing to do with the Processor. Apple just now got 8k capabilities with their new 48mp sensor. 2. Kid, the GPU power of the SD8gen2 is AT BEST about as good, but rather worse. iPhones are capped to 60fps, hence why the SD8gen2 is able to beat it in Wildlife by such a crazy amount. Newer versions of 3DMark literally tell you the test is too lightweight. 3. The actual conclusion: Slap a MagSafe fan on the iPhone 14 Pro Max and you got yourself the by far best Phone Gaming Device the world has to offer. If you don’t like iOS, go for a SD8gen2 device.
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Dinervc 04 January 2023 02:05
Entworks IT, Stay away from Android if you actually are a videographer or photographer. Stop overhyping the SD8gen2, it’s meh. Properly cooled A14>=SD8gen2.☠️
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Qwerty 17 January 2023 11:47
ItzMe, You're spending $1k on a phone to game...There's no way to make you understand how ridiculous that is.
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ItzRandom 19 January 2023 20:28
Dinervc, So much incorrect info in your answer may be due to a lack of knowledge. 1)"Iphone 14 pro max best gaming phone the world has to offer". Check out Asus Rog Phone 6 pro. 2) Where did you find 8K video capabilities in a16 bionic? Max support is 4K 60fps, check the data above 👆👆👆. "Iphones are capped to 60fps". You just said it yourself, apple can't exceed the 60 fps limit in the 3D mark. Especially, it can't ever reach 60fps!! (58 fps with even less stability, also check above👆👆). So even if a16 was not capped it still wouldn't exceed 60fps, snapdragon here is 28,93% better, there's no competitor. A New, "innovative" (let me laugh) 48MP camera doesn't mean better video capabilities. Video recording has to do with GPU, so with the chipset. I'll give a very simple example of mid-range androids: My redmi note 10S can record 4K 30fps with a 64MP sensor, but the newer Redmi note 11S can only record 1080p 30fps with a 108MP camera. So it's all about the chip. Conclusion? I suggest doing some research before throwing a comment. Thank you for your time.
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ItzMe 19 January 2023 20:52
Qwerty, What do u mean I spend 1k on a phone for the game? My phone is a Redmi note 10S and there's no freaking way to give above 350$ for a phone. Just a waste of money for me and my use. All this comparison exists for people who want to buy stuff like this.
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yoyo 22 January 2023 16:32
Qwerty, That’s like comparing a console to a pc. Gtfo. You should compare: PC to Console Mobile Phone to Hand handle ( Switch, Steam Deck and etc.)
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Nabil 09 December 2022 22:33
Much wrong info. Let's start with GPU. Raw GPU strength; ( igpu fp32 performance) 8 gen 2 (Adreno 740) = 3000 GFLOPS. A16 bionic (5-core GPU) = 2000 GFLOPS. Theoretically, 8 gen 2 has almost 33% more powerful GPU. 3d mark Wildlife extreme stress test 8 gen 2; highest 3744, Lowest 3168, stability 84.6 % A16 bionic; Highest 3311, Lowest 2209, stability 65.3 % HERE AGAIN, 8 GEN 2 IS BETTER. Gfx bench 1080p off screen 8 gen 2 = 226 fps , 7.5 watts of average power consumption and 30 fps per watt A16 bionic= 195 fps, 8.3 watts of average power consumption And 22.2 fps per watt Once again 8 gen 2 is more powerful and more efficient. Let's head back to Cpu Geekbench 5 8 gen 2 = 1493/ 5304 A16 bionic = 1861/ 5465 Single-threaded performance is the only thing is 8 gen 2 is behind the a16 bionic
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Boris 11 December 2022 21:46
"Single-threaded performance is the only thing is 8 gen 2 is behind the a16 bionic" And your entire post is dedicated to the GPU... so yes. I can say this: "The GPU performance is the only thing 8 gen 2 is in front of a16 bionic"
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im not givin out my name 20 December 2022 19:11
Boris, there's only 2 real tests: cpu and GPU speed (which sd8g2 has) it has: better performance per watt, better multi core, better stability the entire post is not dedicated to GPU, they did all the normal tests. power, stability, performance in games, CPU, GPU.
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Mike 21 December 2022 19:02
Boris, Multi-core performance memory could do wonders for a system making them feel as fast as an iphone.
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Lucas 02 January 2023 21:47
Boris, Call apple, and tell them to add a fan, his chip is heating up (trash efficiency)
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Qwerty 17 January 2023 11:51
"Single-threaded performance is the only thing is 8 gen 2 is behind the a16 bionic" Single Threaded performance is the most important factor for day-to-day tasks that MOST people use their phones for.
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Unkown 17 January 2023 13:20
Bro, I think you might be wrong First of all, you didn't mention which gfxbench benchmark But as I can see the results I will guess it is Manhattan 1080p off screen Check it on gfxbench it got 243 fps and Vivo x90 with dimensity 9200 behind it with 241 How did the iphone get 195 and the snapdragon 8 gen 2 get 226
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ItzRandom 04 December 2022 13:17
Wow! Snapdragon 8 gen 2 clearly destroys a16 bionic in 3D Mark, the ultimate graphic performance tester, so sd 8gen2 holds the crown for the best gaming chipset on the planet right now. Also, this shows apple has a long way to catch android flagship chipsets in the gaming section. 4/12/2022
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ItzRandomEatsPoop 07 December 2022 19:24
A16 is the best mobile chip there is when it comes to gaming and battery life. It completely makes the 8 Gen 2 as if it never existed in Geekbench. 8 Gen 2 self-destructs on its own with throttling and poor sustainable performance, in fact, it needs cooling systems to keep it in check. 7/12/2022
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Harry 09 December 2022 21:33
ItzRandomEatsPoop, Where did you even test 8 gen 2? A16 bionic is only ahead in single-core performance in Geekbench. Multi-core score of 8 gen 2 is 5300+. And the GPU of is straight 20% more powerful and 18% more efficient than a16 bionic's 5-core GPU. 8 gen 2 has more sustainable performance? Where did you even find that? At this point, no phone with 8 gen 2 released globally. (10th December). Stop with your hypocrisy.
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Zeky 11 December 2022 23:21
The point of an iphone isn´t being the fastest gaming phone, it´s having the best usability and faster CPU performance because that´s the point of an iphone, CPU-related tasks.
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ItzRandom 14 December 2022 17:21
ItzRandomEatsPoop, Correction to my comment: Sd 8 gen 2 has 28,93% better gaming performance than A16 bionic (simple maths).
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VMX 17 December 2022 16:14
ItzRandomEatsPoop, Snapdragon is the best one against any processor. It's for powerful and enhanced.
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Boris 17 December 2022 22:49
VMX, Just GPU-wise. Otherwise is not impressive at all. Especially compared to an Apple SoC.
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Dan 19 December 2022 05:17
ItzRandomEatsPoop, Lol, Iphone14 Pro had a dimming issue. It was running pubgm at its best while having extremely low brightness to the point where you could barely see anything.
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Ocean 24 December 2022 18:05
Boris, Name a single thing a16 does better than 8 gen 2 except single-threaded performance. Name it I will wait.
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guest 30 December 2022 14:45
Ocean, stability, sd processors always overheat. so yeah, enjoy your 5 minutes at 60 fps but don't complain when them framerates start freefalling lol67
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Yes 01 January 2023 01:27
guest, I thought overheating is an iphone thing XD
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Lmao 02 January 2023 21:50
guest, Go ahead, run 20 cycles of 3d mark on the A16, it will go down, and even my Helio G95 can do better.
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Gabriel 17 January 2023 16:56
guest, As you can see in this comparison, the stability is better on SD8G2.
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just_a_random_pikachu 03 December 2022 15:28
Guys, the snapdragon 8 gen 2 is clearly better than the A16 if you factor in price. The price for an sd8g2 flagship phone is up to maybe 1.5k USD, meanwhile, the iPhone 15 will probably cost upwards of 2k USD.
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Boris 04 December 2022 03:03
Wait what? You are talking which is better by the price of the overall product/device and it's built quality? LOL
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pieceofchum 15 December 2022 07:25
Right now S22 Ultra and iPhone 14 Max Pro cos the same even with Samsung deals and there is no reason why Apple would suddenly drastically increase their price. I am holding off until the S23 ultra comes out but I expect the price to match Apple’s iPhone.
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Nabil 29 November 2022 15:16
Lol website is too biased. Cpu isn't the only part of the whole SOC. There are Gpu, npu , modem, ISP etc. 8 gen 2 is literally superior in every aspect except raw Cpu single-threaded performance. Andreno 740 is 20% more powerful and 18% more efficient than a bionic 5-core GPU. Not to mention the superior npu and ISP advantages that 8 gen 2 gets. Stop this bias
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Boris 29 November 2022 23:46
Then why it's not 100 at the TOP 1? :D You don't even understand what I mean. The top 1 atm is A16 and it's not even 100/100... it's not about the A16. It's about the place vs score.
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Boris 29 November 2022 23:47
I don't see how the ISP and NPU are superior since they score lower than the A16. The only category where Gen 2 leads it's the GPU. That's all.
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Nabil 04 December 2022 07:57
Boris, Lmao. The neutral engine of 8 gen 2 is superior. Not to the advanced modem and more capable ISP. It's only the CPU where a16 ahead. Stop with hypocrisy.
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Boris 13 December 2022 02:16
Nabil, I don't see it tho. It's just in your dreams. The modem is not part of A16 anyway. Apple is using dedicated modems. ;)
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Guest 02 January 2023 21:52
Boris, I'm sorry, but efficiency is a win for the SD8 not for the A16, plus, stability us another win for the SD.
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ThatGuy 11 January 2023 14:09
Nabil, I see you are heavily biased against Apple's A16 Bionic lol. The 8 Gen 1 was inferior to Apple because of overheating and throttling issues. A16 Bionic only leads in Geekbenchmark tests while it scores lower on Antutu and 3D Mark - of course, it is because of its higher GPU performance. Also, there are no throttling issues reported for 8 Gen 2 phones and they don't overheat like 8 Gen 1. Apple needs to improve the Bionic to give a stable gaming performance at max brightness which isn't happening even with the powerful A16 Bionic - to prevent throttling, A16 dims the brightness which is extremely freaking annoying to gamers. Vivo has just launched the X90 Pro and iQOO 11 Pro, which is also using 8 Gen 2 with the V2 Vivo chip. They managed to boost FPS up to 144hz, which is insane; the CPU doesn't throttle at all lol! 8 Gen 2 supports 8K 30fps which isn't available on A16 Bionic. In every aspect, the 8 Gen 2 makes a better gaming chipset. Kid, I know it hurts when you love Apple and you just spent 1500$ for it. Lmao
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Boris 24 November 2022 16:00
Why did CPU performance feel to 97 from 100? What is better now (100) than A16? How this point system even works?
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Scorpio 24 November 2022 07:13
You are very biased toward Apple. Benchmarks, where Apple is slow by 25 to 30%, is still showing full bar but wherever S8G2 is lagging you are showing the right blue bars.
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Mike 30 November 2022 15:51
This site is probably part of YouTubers MaxTech empire and that boy licks Tim Cook’s shoes every day! 🤣😂🤣
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Boris 23 November 2022 14:09
Guys fix the multicore for A16... it's not 5198... it's much more. It hovers around 5400-5500... My unit got like ~5500. https://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks Even here is well to see it's higher than yours... what a based website dude.
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Billy 22 November 2022 15:50
The results are that Snapdragon 8 Gen 2’s GPU has about 20% more performance than A16 Bionic. 8Gen2 CPU’s single core is between A13 and A14, multi-core is between A15 and A16.
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G.R. Roman 21 November 2022 19:13
snapdragon 8 gen 2 can reach 5100+ in geekbench multi-core.. 14000 in 3d mark wildlife.. 3700+ in wildlife extreme stress test.. also bionic a16 can reach 5500+ in geekbench multicore
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Dr Mujeeb 21 November 2022 03:04
Efficiency also matters. Apple's bionics have only been downgraded since a14. ( Geekbench scores/watt) A14: 4200 @ 6.7w (626/w) A15: 4700 @ 8.2w (573/w) A16: 5400 @ 9.2w (586/w) While as Android has been only improving in terms of efficiency. SD 8 gen 1: 3700 @ 10.5w (352/w) D 9000 : 4300 @ 8.8w (488/w) SD 8+ gen 1: 4200 @ 7.5w ( 560/w) D9200: 4450 @ 7.8w ( 570/w) SD 8 gen 2 : 4700 @ 7.8w (602/w) Let's talk about improvement in genshin impact. 57 fps @ 1440:720p resolution: A15: 4.9 watts A 16: 5.2 watts ( apple becoming worse) 8 gen 1: 9 watts D 9000: 6.2 watts ( Android improving) SD 8+ gen 1 : 5.5 watts D9200: 5.4 watts SD 8 gen 2: not yet disclosed. Then GPU is altogether a different game. On manhattan es 3.1 offscreen 1080p Apple bionic in 4 years has improved from 120 fps to 195 fps (62%). At the same time, Android has improved from 87 fps to 226 fps (160%). Apple had a lead in efficiency until a14. But since then they have dried up, there hasn't been any improvement in efficiency at all and they have just been increasing tdp of their chips and no real efficiency gains.
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Steve 21 November 2022 15:23
Anandtech does an in-depth analysis and shows that Apple's chips lead both in terms of performance and performance per watt. Also, you can't just compare frame rates in Genshin Impact. The Android version is dumbed down such that you can't run the highest level of graphic effects as compared to the iPhone version. So, you're not comparing the same thing.
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John Ades 22 November 2022 02:43
Where did you get this data?
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Eimantas 19 November 2022 18:56
Only I want to ask how a 15Gz CPU of 16 bionic is better than the 20,4 Gz speed of Gen2.
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Boris 19 November 2022 17:42
Good, but still A16 kicks a*s! 6 vs 8 cores and still higher multicore score. Btw the 5200 used here is low. My 14 Pro reached around ~5500. Next year's A17 should be amazing and again make the gap bigger!
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Dr mujeeb 21 November 2022 03:17
iSheep cores don't matter. How big an individual core is, that matters as well. Suppose a16 big core has 8 lanes (sub-core) while cortex x3 has only 6 lanes. Let's count all the lanes. On a16 : Big cores: 8 lanes Efficiency cores: 4 lanes Total lanes: 8×2+4×4= 32. On d9200 and 8 gen 2. Big core - 6 lanes Mid core - 4 lanes Efficiency core - 2 lanes Total lanes D9200 : 6×1+ 4×3+2×4 = 26 lanes 8 gen 2 : 6×1+ 4×4 + 2×3 = 28 lanes Even the upcoming sd 8 gen 3 with the proposed design as 1 big core 5 mid cores and 2 small cores has only 30 lanes. Apple had actually more real cores 32 vs 8 gen 2s only 28 cores. And that is shown also in power consumption as well. Apple a16 consumes 9.2 watts of power ( 9.2/32 = 0.288) 8 gen 2 consumes 7.8 watts of power ( 7.8/28= 0.278).
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lucas 28 November 2022 01:35
and the SD8 gen 2 plus will come out as well, oh don't forget the dimensity 10000 by MediaTek.
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Dr. Doom 06 December 2022 04:10
Dr mujeeb, Also, the Cache system is different. A16 has 24 MB of cache. Never even owned a desktop PC with such a high cache.
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Entworks IT 01 January 2023 18:14
Are you running virtual machines on your A16? No? Then cores are meaningless, especially since Apple devices and multitasking isn't well thought-out.
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Stevehobs 03 January 2023 22:48
Dr mujeeb, You see the problem is, that apple fanboys have absolutely no idea what they're ever talking about. They see vague, simple PowerPoint at apple presentations and put all their faith into it as if it were the word of god and defend it like the zealots they are lol.
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Karim 19 November 2022 07:23
If snapdragon wants to win should change the structure to 1+5+2 or 2+4+2
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Dr Mujeeb 21 November 2022 03:02
2 4 2 isn't feasible. But 1 5 2 is, in fact, according to earlier leaks they are going to switch to 152 with 8 gen 3.
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John Ades 22 November 2022 02:46
Dr Mujeeb, Why using 2x X-core isn't feasible like what apple does so they can win in the single-core bench?
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Nabil 17 November 2022 18:03
It's pretty clear GPU wise snapdragon 8 gen 2 is better and Cpu wise a16 bionic better. Argue with your keyboard.
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Dr mujeeb 21 November 2022 03:25
CPU efficiency: geekbench A16: 5400/9.2 watt (586/w). 8 gen 2: 4700/7.8 watt (602/w). 8 gen 2 is more efficient so better sustained performance. GPU efficiency: manhattan es offscreen 1080p A16 : 195/8.75 watt (22.28/w) 8 gen 2 : 218/8.5 watt (25.64/w) Again more sustained and powerful performance on 8 gen 2. So 8 gen 2 is actually both in terms of CPU as well as GPU more powerful in sustained performance than fruit 16.
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Frog 22 November 2022 17:53
Dr mujeeb, Then why a16 is better in battery life than potato 8 gen 2
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sheesh 27 November 2022 11:19
Frog, cuz a16's advantage is the superior IOS optimization. If sd 8 gen 2 has by IOS optimization then potato a16 will be just left behind.
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im not givin out my name 20 December 2022 19:14
Frog, OS optimization, which can be fixed with software. nothing fixes hardware flaws though
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